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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2010-06-24 09:55 am
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DW 5.12. The Pandorica Opens.

So, before the episode aired, my thoughts were pretty much the same as [livejournal.com profile] promethia_tenk’s, in [livejournal.com profile] doctoreleven’s Official Squee Reaction Post:

RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER! RIVER!

And after the episode, my thoughts echoed this tweet by James Moran:

OMG TEH THING WITH THE THING AND THE THINGS AND WHEN THAT THING OMG TEH DOCTOR AND THING AND OMGGGGGG

(This started out as a review, then turned into meta and then became a love letter to Eleven... I don’t even know. It was late when I wrote it.)

Well when watching the start of the ep (once we’d got past poor Vincent and Churchill & Bracewell (HELLO continuity, ILU!) the River squee above was pretty much what my brain was doing.

I didn’t think they could top her entrance in Time of Angels, but this blew it straight out of the water. I might have mentioned once or twice that competence is probably my biggest kink of all, and River being OMG!Awesome tapped into that like you wouldn’t believe.

Btw I think River made short work of the Smilers, hence Liz Ten deciding to confront her personally. Also the little stick figure with the curly hair is the most BRILLIANT thing ever! And then - Cleopatra! :D

“You graffittied the oldest cliff face in the world!”
You wouldn’t answer your phone!”

Srsly, she is *totally* the perfect woman for him. *ships them liek whoa*

‘One Oh Two am. No pm. No - AD!’ is one of those beautiful little moments that highlight the way the Doctor sees time, and the madness of time travel, without any great speeches. I love it. :)

Everything to do with Stonehenge was fabulous - the Indiana Jones feel of it all, the Doctor’s face when they opened the big, HUGE doors, the way the three of them fall into a family dynamic... It’s all good!

Also good is the Pandorica. Just generally. Looks good, works well... *waves hands about in Eleven-y fashion to indicate general approval*

Am skipping lots of stuff, to get to the (to me) important parts.

Firstly the Amy/Doctor talk about the ring. I just love it on too many levels to count. The Doctor’s protectiveness of the ring - when he says ‘Someone I lost’ the weight of Rory’s loss sits so heavily on him. And then the way he tries to get her to remember ‘Sometimes people fall out of the world , but they leave traces...’ [from memory, it was longer than this I know] (This little speech also neatly explains how the photo of Amy with Rory survived.) - he wants it so badly, and yet the connection is, once more, snapped.

But the conversation leads to the Doctor admitting that he did have a reason for choosing Amy (other than loneliness): Too many empty rooms in her house... (It’s that duck pond again, I’m telling you!)

“Does it ever bother you, Amy, that your life makes no sense?”

I can feel how important this’ll all be, but I’ll be darned if I can work out why. (DON’T SPOIL ME! Not even with speculations!!!)

Of course this *fascinating* discussion is cut short by the cyberarm’s firing at them, leading to that most marvellous of moments:

“Look at me! I’m a target!”

♥ ♥ ♥

Also kudos to Moffat/the team for managing to make a cyberman simultaneously creepy/scary (were they ever?) and hilarious!

And then... RORY!!!!

I had hoped he’d be back, of course, but being unspoiled paid off BIG TIME! *dances*

The Doctor’s reaction was just right, absentminded old buffer that he is. ♥ And then the rather awkward conversation that follows, which included one of my favourite quotes to come out of the show: “The universe is vast and complicated and sometimes impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” It was used in the BBCA trailer, and I’ve loved it ever since first hearing it, and it absolutely breaks my heart that Rory was the first miracle the Doctor was ready to believe in in 900 years...

And then Amy wakes up and breaks poor Rory’s heart. And it only just occurred to me today that the Doctor knows *exactly* how Rory feels. He, too, has witnessed his best friend walk past him as if he was just another guy, not worth a second glance.

Of course he then sends Rory to do what he himself can’t - try to get the girl to remember. Except memory turns out to be as fatal for Amy as it would for Donna - she remembers Rory at precisely the wrong moment, because the things she’s seen whilst travelling with the Doctor (oh Bracewell) make her fight for Rory’s humanity when she ought to have run...

(And how beautiful is the Amy/Rory theme? *sniff*)

But back to the episode, and River. River who is brilliant and competent and gets taken to Amy’s house by the TARDIS (OMG the screen cracking was *perfect* and exceedingly worrysome), and particularly loved her: “Oh Doctor, why do I let you out?” upon seeing Amy’s dolls. And it ties in with her previous comment about how she dislikes white wizards in stories because they always turn out to be him - she loves him (obviously), but has no illusions about him and, I think, knows exactly how much his wizarding can cost the people who follow him. (Will we maybe one day get her back story? Where does she come from? How did she become such an adept criminal? And how does the archeology fit into that? etc. etc. She’s fascinating!)

But now for the Doctor. Oh Doctor, Doctor, how much do I love thee? Let me count the ways:

I love you for smiling when you see River’s message.

I love you for being so HAPPY and intrigued to have found the Pandorica.

I love you for pointing out how the Daleks are always cross.

I love you for your gentleness in dealing with Amy when trying to get her to remember.

I love you for ridiculously throwing yourself into danger, arms thrown wide.

I love you for trusting River completely.

I love you for not running away this time. (“Run where?” “Fight how?”)

I love you for your great big speech (re-using parts of the speech you did as Nine! ♥) - for basically standing there and being the Oncoming Storm, and for the fact that every. single. word of that speech fits with you being ‘the most feared being in all the cosmos’.

I love you for playing match maker even at the most inopportune time possible, because you want people to be happy.

I love you for the look on your face when you realise that the Pandorica is for you, for the despair and terror and pleading as you are locked away. For being just this slightly ridiculous looking man, with a face too young for your eyes and a bowtie, looking neither like a villain nor a hero, but a madman with a box.

And I love you for having a huge blind spot when it comes to yourself, and thusly needing things spelled out for you sometimes - like Amy does at the end of ‘The Beast Below’. And I love how that speech contrasts with the one about the warrior in the Pandorica, because - impossibly - you are both. I hope and pray that you - somehow - save the universe by being kind.



(Also I love this wallpaper and this fic: Cautionary Tales for Incautious Children. Both very relevant to this post!)

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-06-24 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I pretty much have nothing to say except FLAIL FLAIL FLAIL I LOVE THIS EPISODE SO HARD EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, which is hardly constructive.

So here! Have a .gif!

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Actually, I will say this, though, too: I have enjoyed Doctor Who since I first started watching it, and some of the episodes have really moved me and some have made me flail with glee. But I think this season is the one that has totally captured my heart in every way--I am passionate about this show now. I don't know if it's Moffat's writing or if it's Eleven or Amy or what, but YES. THIS SHOW. YES.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-06-24 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been meaning to watch it again since the first time, but now I am definitely doing it tonight. Because this post just reminded me how much I love it.

Immediately after I watched I was kind of...stunned, and I wandered into a reaction post on one of my friends' journals, and I said, "Is it just me, or was that episode really, really good?" Because I thought it wasn't quite possible that it really was as good as it seemed to be. But it appears the consensus was that it really is that good! Yay!

Aw! I love this .gif, too!

It really is amazing to me how much this season is doing it for me.
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2010-06-25 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It's strange, because I've loved this show for years now, but there is something about this season that's pushing buttons that I didn't know needed pushing, if that makes sense.
OMG. Yes! I've been trying to come up with why this season is so amazing, and it's because, somehow, it's found something I want that no other show has ever provided. It's something like . . . luminousness.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2010-06-24 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this episode was rather fantastic, wasn't it? :)

[identity profile] tempestas-inu.livejournal.com 2010-06-24 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
and it only just occurred to me today that the Doctor knows *exactly* how Rory feels. He, too, has witnessed his best friend walk past him as if he was just another guy, not worth a second glance.
Indeed, You're talking about Jamie right? :( The look on the Doctor's face when Rory asks "did she miss me?" just SO very much displayed that he feels for Rory (and how guilty he is that it happened).

Speaking of which I was just entirely happy to see the Doctor and Rory interact with each other again, they just play off each other so WELL. I love that the Doctor forgot that Rory wasn't supposed to be there with them because it shows that it'd became natural for him to be around.... OT3!!!

And since I started out talking about Rory, I may as well finish talking about Rory. Even though he turned out to be an auton, he still SO VERY MUCH believed he was Rory, and it just broke my heart when he was screaming "I'm a thing! I'll kill you, just GO! PLEASE NO I DON'T WANT TO GO! I'M RORY!". ;_; And oh Amy, I was so glad that she saw Rory for Rory but LISTENING FOR ONCE wouldn't have been a bad idea.

Oh god Amy, what is it about you that doesn't make sense? It's both intriguing me and freaking me out!

I'm not a Doctor/River shipper by way of romance but I love how they interact with each other (SO much verbal gold in this episode) and I TOTALLY love that River talks to the TARDIS like a person like the Doctor "are you alright now?"

I LOVE YOUR LOVE LETTER TO THE DOCTOR! There's very much to love about the mad man in a box (what an ironic statement now ;_;)

...for basically standing there and being the Oncoming Storm,
That speech was such a grand moment. I've heard some people say that that speech was epic but useless, I've also heard others say that while it didn't technically have the effect the Doctor wanted, it probably ended up strengthening their resolve to lock him up.

AUGGHHH this week isn't passing by fast enough! PLEASE SHOW, for once let everyone I care about be okay!

[identity profile] tempestas-inu.livejournal.com 2010-06-26 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Woah, I don't know how the heck I didn't think of Donna, especially since it's the incident with her that should be foremost on his mind as it was the most recent. Poor Donna.... I think maybe it's because Jamie was another male companion of the doctor's that had to deal with a memory loss thing.
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2010-06-25 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
NGL, it's a bit of a shock to click on a random review from [livejournal.com profile] who_daily to find yourself quoted back to you. Nice shock, though :-)

Firstly the Amy/Doctor talk about the ring. I just love it on too many levels to count. The Doctor’s protectiveness of the ring - when he says ‘Someone I lost’ the weight of Rory’s loss sits so heavily on him . . . “Does it ever bother you, Amy, that your life makes no sense?”
Best scene of the episode. Hands down. Just may have knocked the interrogation scene with Alaya off the pedestal for Matt's best scene of the season--I'm gonna have to think about it though. So many emotions. So much restraint. Doctor being so old and so vulnerable and so gentle but also a little bit manipulative. Mesmerizing. My favorite beat was when he's trying to get the ring back but Amy pulls it away and he's all "Do you mi . . ." and then he drops his head " . . . mind?"

“The universe is vast and complicated and sometimes impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.”
Moff has freaking word magic. That part made me shiver.

Will we maybe one day get her back story? Where does she come from? How did she become such an adept criminal? And how does the archeology fit into that? etc. etc. She’s fascinating!
I think River would make for a perfect Doctor lite episode. It would be awesome, and we could get actual relevant character and/or plot development out of an ep that's usually a one-off. Or maybe I just want to watch her be James Bond for 45 minutes. That would be good too.

And I love you for having a huge blind spot when it comes to yourself, and thusly needing things spelled out for you sometimes - like Amy does at the end of ‘The Beast Below’. And I love how that speech contrasts with the one about the warrior in the Pandorica, because - impossibly - you are both. I hope and pray that you - somehow - save the universe by being kind.
Ok, reading your post, I was actually tearing up by this point. *guh* Oh, Doctor. And I want exactly what you said to happen. I want the Doctor to live up to that best version of himself that Amy saw back in "The Beast Below." This needs to happen because, I think, just about any other ending would be emotionally unsatisfying, and Moffat, whatever anyone else says about him, has a genius for hitting those emotional resolutions right. His endings *glow*.
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2011-09-30 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Good morning!

Came back to this post, partly for the RIVER RIVER RIVER thing (which I'll need again)
Are you planning your squee ahead of time?!?! lololol *squishes you* Or if you're planning to make fun of me, I would support that too.

*dies laughing* She got her own freaking SEASON! OK, so what you meant was probably something along the lines of 'A chapter from the life of River Song' (possibly with her own team), but... How were we to know that she'd be so very tangled up in the Doctor's life? *happy sigh*
Yeah . . . very dramatically underestimated Moff's commitment to providing River story. Very dramatically. Someday I shall adjust to this idea, I swear.

Is very reassuring. Esp considering that the post was written at the point we are at now - i.e. the day before The Big Finale.
Yup! Like Owl's phrasing about it all ending in hugs. And probably sparkles <3 Need a happy ending rather badly here . . . though mostly worried Amy and Rory will get shortchanged :-\

Really enjoyed your Angel post! Don't really feel qualified to properly comment, but it's an intriguing way to look at the character. Actually quite excited to get back to AtS at some point once Who has wound down a bit (got through the first season and an ep or two into the second before I was lured away). Oh, and if you're bored you should READ FIC! *poke, poke*

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[identity profile] frenchani.livejournal.com 2010-06-27 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen it at last and I agree with everything you said!

The cybermen have never been cooler.

I was a bit afraid of something too sentimental and sappy (with a happy ending for Amy/Rory) when Rory showed up but it's Moffat so it didn't turn out that bad.

For being just this slightly ridiculous looking man, with a face too young for your eyes.

You described him perfectly.

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2010-08-04 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm about to watch the finale and in reading this review saw this:

“Oh Doctor, why do I let you out?” upon seeing Amy’s dolls... (Will we maybe one day get her back story? Where does she come from? How did she become such an adept criminal? And how does the archeology fit into that?

And thought: archeology, River letting the Doctor out, how did the Doctor and River meet ---> and then imagined River going to Pandorica's Box to let out the Doctor somehow.

I'm sure there's some paradox's and big problems in my theory and it's totally, totally wrong, but the way she said "why do I let you out?" and how as the Doctor was being dragged into the Pandorica I kept thinking "madman in a box" and how it's the Doctor's companions who make him more than a madman in a box, thereby freeing him.

This episode was fabulous! Loved it. Off to watch the finale. :D

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2010-08-04 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Just finished the finale! BRILLIANT!

ETA: Whoops, posted spoilers for the finale in this thread!

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[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2012-05-31 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I love you.

I am pimping this post.

I love you.

I have no other words.

*SOBS WITH JOY*

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2012-05-31 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
*Tackles you*

OMG!! ICON!LOVE! *SNAGS*

I do love that about him. And THAT is so Doctory! 'My heart is broken, but how can I make YOU feel better?' GUH. And omg...all season! 'What is the point of you?!' and my heart, my heart, my heart!! Stop it with the broken!puppy!face Smith. KILLING me.

And then next season 'I took you because I'm vain'...omg. *whimpers*

Gods...gotta see that!!

*SNAGS*

GODS. THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL!!

*SOBS WITH JOY*

Thank you, sweetie!!

Now shoo!! Off to bed with you, now!! There's a good woman!

*Kisses*
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[identity profile] gratiela.livejournal.com 2014-02-23 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
and then became a love letter to Eleven... I don’t even know. It was late when I wrote it. Who needs reasons to write love letters, after all? ♥


“Does it ever bother you, Amy, that your life makes no sense?”
OH, YOU'RE GOOOOD!!!<333

Flailing is so delicious, it makes everything better! *joins*