I was referring to that late S5, Summer of Dead Buffy time when talking about him having built a relationship with the Scoobies I think I sort of got that, but just chose to ignore it. ;)
Here's a thought. If anybody is going to bring Buffy back from the dead, it ought to be Spike. I think deep down he'd see that as his choice to make, as his right. He's the Big Bad. If anybody's going to be dabbling in the below-board stuff, it ought to be him. And then, while he's never really been a part of the Scoobies, he managed to find his way into the Buffy family unit. When Dawn tries to bring Joyce back in Forever, Spike will help her out even though he knows it can't end well. If she's going to do something dangerous, it'll be him that sees it through with her, not one of the Scoobies, both because he's better equipped for taking on this kind of danger, and because he's family.
You see, I can't believe for a minute that it wouldn’t have crossed Spike's mind that it could be done. Come on, this is the Spike who not so very long ago wanted Buffy so much he had a robot substitute made. This is the Spike that tells Xander, "Willow knew there was a chance that she'd come back wrong. So wrong that you'd have ... that she would have to get rid of what came back. And I wouldn't let her. If any part of that was Buffy, I wouldn't let her." And this is key for me – somewhere along the line, Spike has to have made the decision not to go there. Because he knows Buffy better than most, and he knows exactly what kind of reaction to expect from Buffy if something like this was carried out without her consent. He says to Dawn in Forever, don’t tell Buffy. He knows where she'd stand on it.
It's about control. He makes a decision. He'll do what Buffy would have wanted.
Except, the Scoobies go ahead and take that decision out of his hands. And yes, Spike is utterly excluded from the whole process, and that's bad enough, but where it really stings is that they usurp his right to make a choice and to follow it through.
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I think I sort of got that, but just chose to ignore it. ;)
Interesting. I've never thought about it that way.
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Here's a thought. If anybody is going to bring Buffy back from the dead, it ought to be Spike. I think deep down he'd see that as his choice to make, as his right. He's the Big Bad. If anybody's going to be dabbling in the below-board stuff, it ought to be him. And then, while he's never really been a part of the Scoobies, he managed to find his way into the Buffy family unit. When Dawn tries to bring Joyce back in Forever, Spike will help her out even though he knows it can't end well. If she's going to do something dangerous, it'll be him that sees it through with her, not one of the Scoobies, both because he's better equipped for taking on this kind of danger, and because he's family.
You see, I can't believe for a minute that it wouldn’t have crossed Spike's mind that it could be done. Come on, this is the Spike who not so very long ago wanted Buffy so much he had a robot substitute made. This is the Spike that tells Xander, "Willow knew there was a chance that she'd come back wrong. So wrong that you'd have ... that she would have to get rid of what came back. And I wouldn't let her. If any part of that was Buffy, I wouldn't let her." And this is key for me – somewhere along the line, Spike has to have made the decision not to go there. Because he knows Buffy better than most, and he knows exactly what kind of reaction to expect from Buffy if something like this was carried out without her consent. He says to Dawn in Forever, don’t tell Buffy. He knows where she'd stand on it.
It's about control. He makes a decision. He'll do what Buffy would have wanted.
Except, the Scoobies go ahead and take that decision out of his hands. And yes, Spike is utterly excluded from the whole process, and that's bad enough, but where it really stings is that they usurp his right to make a choice and to follow it through.