elisi: (Thirteen)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2018-11-03 03:03 pm

Thoughts.

If you came this way,
Taking any route, starting from anywhere,
At any time or at any season,
It would always be the same

(T.S. Eliot, Little Gidding - many apologies)

I had a sort of mini-epiphany. I've said that the show now feels [in texture] like Classic Who, and that you could jump from then to now with no problem.

And I think that's the thing. The show has been re-booted, but it's still anchor-less. There is no part of it that makes it a continuation of New Who. (Except for Thirteen wearing Twelve's clothes and the shorter format etc etc, that's not what I am talking about.)

So far Thirteen is absolutely the Doctor, no doubt about it, and she's brilliant, but like... sort of in parallel to the past? Her stories could be set at any point. She could be a Classic Doctor, like... a re-cast Five? And you needn't change a thing.

I'm not saying this is bad. But it means there is nothing that really grabs me.

So, instead of complaining I'm off to watch Classic Who! Watched Battlefield last night (S26, ep 1, Seven's final season) and loved it to pieces. Next up is Ghostlight which [personal profile] thisbluespirit bought for me. ♥ And once I'm done with Seven I'll start on Six properly. Hurrah for the 50+ years of show!
promethia_tenk: (five)

[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2018-12-17 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Just wanted to pop in and let you know that you were totally right: Mawdryn Undead was totally amazing and the best thing of Classic Who I've seen. *flails mighty flails*

My other big winners have been Genesis of the Daleks, Face of Evil, Horror of Fang Rock (mostly for Leela and Four'n'Leela, the story was whatever), City of Death, Shada, the whole arc from Warrior's Gate to Castrovalva, Kinda (runner up for best thing ever: Classic Who edition), and Snakedance.

(I started from Four and have been watching straight through. I'm up to Terminus.)
thisbluespirit: (dw - seven & ace)

[personal profile] thisbluespirit 2018-12-17 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Mawdryn Undead was totally amazing and the best thing of Classic Who I've seen. *flails mighty flails*

LOL, that's brilliant. I want my Official Librarian badge back now. :-D It's a fun one, and gets underrated a lot, I think.

My other big winners have been Genesis of the Daleks, Face of Evil, Horror of Fang Rock (mostly for Leela and Four'n'Leela, the story was whatever), City of Death, Shada, the whole arc from Warrior's Gate to Castrovalva, Kinda (runner up for best thing ever: Classic Who edition), and Snakedance.

A nice mix! You even liked some big fan favourites; is that too heretical for you? Kinda is definitely amazing, though, and Snakedance, too - always high on my list! (One of my big Eric Saward grudges is that, as script editor, he convinced Chris Bailey who wrote those two that he was a rubbish script writer, and that was that. *shakes fist at Eric Saward*)

(I'm not sure whether I'm not relieved or disappointed that you didn't love Underworld, though, but honestly nobody can love that much CSO. Not even for Leela, who is indeed awesome.)

I started from Four and have been watching straight through. I'm up to Terminus.

That's impressive speed! Good luck with Terminus. I expect Nyssa will be removing her clothes any time soon. Oh, and then Enlightenment!
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2018-12-17 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, that's brilliant. I want my Official Librarian badge back now. :-D It's a fun one, and gets underrated a lot, I think.
*pins badge on you with all due pomp and circumstance*

It was just so full of different things! And all of them were interesting! And actual, proper, timey-wimey such as would do Moff proud <3 Could not be happier with it.

You even liked some big fan favourites; is that too heretical for you?
Lol. No, I've no problem with liking the things everybody thinks are great (the crowd is right sometimes). I'm just never too surprised when I find myself disagreeing with everybody.

(I think I'm also with the consensus agreement that the stories set on Gallifrey are a bit dull? But I do like them for the background they provide.)

Kinda is definitely amazing, though, and Snakedance, too - always high on my list! (One of my big Eric Saward grudges is that, as script editor, he convinced Chris Bailey who wrote those two that he was a rubbish script writer, and that was that. *shakes fist at Eric Saward*)
This is villainy of the highest order. Alas for what could have been!

(I'm not sure whether I'm not relieved or disappointed that you didn't love Underworld, though, but honestly nobody can love that much CSO. Not even for Leela, who is indeed awesome.)
I liked a lot of the ideas in it quite a lot! (and its connection to Face of Evil with the Time Lords/the Doctor screwing up a whole civilization with their careless interference--that was great). But the script was only middling and the execution indeed awful, so . . . I'd watch it again, sometime.

That's impressive speed! Good luck with Terminus. I expect Nyssa will be removing her clothes any time soon. Oh, and then Enlightenment!
Yeah, I'm through three episodes and she just spontaneously dropped her skirt and I was like . . . huh ?!?!? (Will that get explained, or did I miss something, or is it just weird?)
thisbluespirit: (dw - seven & ace)

[personal profile] thisbluespirit 2018-12-17 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I'm also with the consensus agreement that the stories set on Gallifrey are a bit dull? But I do like them for the background they provide.

*nods* And that's pretty much my feelings about them, too.

Yeah, I'm through three episodes and she just spontaneously dropped her skirt and I was like . . . huh ?!?!? (Will that get explained, or did I miss something, or is it just weird?)

I believe the explanation in-verse is that she's feeling ill and getting hot and, she says, "My stomach feels so distended!" (er, as one does). The real reason was that someone wrote in to complain about having covered up the companions too much since Leela's day, and Janet Fielding and Sarah Sutton both got stuck with more revealing outfits, plus Nyssa casting off her garments. Mind you, to be fair, at some point Turlough will also strip off for equality! /o\