elisi: (Thirteen)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2018-11-03 03:03 pm

Thoughts.

If you came this way,
Taking any route, starting from anywhere,
At any time or at any season,
It would always be the same

(T.S. Eliot, Little Gidding - many apologies)

I had a sort of mini-epiphany. I've said that the show now feels [in texture] like Classic Who, and that you could jump from then to now with no problem.

And I think that's the thing. The show has been re-booted, but it's still anchor-less. There is no part of it that makes it a continuation of New Who. (Except for Thirteen wearing Twelve's clothes and the shorter format etc etc, that's not what I am talking about.)

So far Thirteen is absolutely the Doctor, no doubt about it, and she's brilliant, but like... sort of in parallel to the past? Her stories could be set at any point. She could be a Classic Doctor, like... a re-cast Five? And you needn't change a thing.

I'm not saying this is bad. But it means there is nothing that really grabs me.

So, instead of complaining I'm off to watch Classic Who! Watched Battlefield last night (S26, ep 1, Seven's final season) and loved it to pieces. Next up is Ghostlight which [personal profile] thisbluespirit bought for me. ♥ And once I'm done with Seven I'll start on Six properly. Hurrah for the 50+ years of show!
promethia_tenk: (britta warren piece)

[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2018-11-03 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect it’s originally from Shakespeare or similar. I’m not sure of the reference, though.
promethia_tenk: (river smile)

[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2018-11-03 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently it's Nelson at the Battle of Trafalgar:

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-origin-of-the-phrase-how-goes-the-war

And rather appropriately:

using unorthodox tactics, Lord Nelson was able to destroy the majority of the combined Spanish / French fleet without losing a single ship.

Mind you, I'm sure Moff knew it had already been used in Battlefield when he decided to use it as well.
enevarim: (punting)

[personal profile] enevarim 2018-11-03 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
how could she possibly know?
– I was imagining extensive research up and down the Doctor's timeline, and I still think it could be that (and with the Doctor's invisibility watch in The Caretaker, an invisibility cloak isn't entirely out of the question either), but Promethia has a point too:

King John, V.iii, The field of battle.

Alarums. Enter KING JOHN and HUBERT.

KING JOHN How goes the day with us? O, tell me, Hubert.

HUBERT Badly, I fear. How fares your majesty?

KING JOHN This fever, that hath troubled me so long,
Lies heavy on me; O, my heart is sick!
promethia_tenk: (eleven eyes)

[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2018-11-03 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Also an extremely appropriate reference. So, it's apparently a layered allusion. All the better!
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2018-11-03 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
*tilts head* Unless River had an invisibility cloak/spy cam how could she possibly know?
The same way the Doctor had a picture of her on his desk from the moments after she'd poisoned him, I suspect.