It's so beautiful. Thank you very much indeed. I shall be keeping this open in a tab in my 'currently watching' reference section.
Also I think this list takes in almost all the most hated stories, so it is boldly going where DW recs lists may never have gone before... I feel so oddly proud about this. Though you did all the work, of course. #watching DW wrong
My comments are very biased and subjective! 10 out of 10 DW fans would argue with me. Although to be fair, they would also argue with the other 9. *snort*
The War Games (I know it's 10 episodes, and again, more significant than meta-ish (first revelation of who the Doctor is and where he comes from), but it actually has enough plot to sustain itself and is excellent) I have watched that one! I was talking with owlboy, who is far deeper on Twelve than I could ever hope to be and he said The War Games and Three were the place to go for the roots of the Doctor's internal and external struggles with the military and authoritarianism, so that's when I ended up watching Three. I did enjoy the War Games. Far more than I thought I would when you say 'ten-episode serial in black and white.'
Planet of the Spiders (this is mythology/backstory central, but also comes with bonus epic 70s padding to end all padding, and the worst guest acting ever BUT it is pretty fundamental in who the Doctor is & wraps up some character points/continuity from The Green Death and Invasion of the Dinosaurs) This is the first good thing I've ever heard about that one. I've only ever seen it referenced as a punchline.
I know [personal profile] elisi has seen it, but if I'm being completist, I have to at least nod to Genesis of the Daleks for origin stories, CIA interference, the first real non-TARDIS time travel and "Do I have the right?" (but also TERRY NATION OH GOD. sorry.) That is the next thing I'm watching, so we're covered!
Underworld. (Caveat: you don't want to watch Underworld! But there are some interesting ideas mixing the terrible consequences of Gallifreyan history and random Greek myths. If you are feeling completist, watch episode 1. If you watch eps 2-3 with the terrible CSO production nightmare in which everyone was literally trying to get through their lines while not falling over because of the budget crises where there wasn't one due to reasons, DO NOT BLAME ME. Episode 4 is okay.) Oh man, *giggles* I am exactly the kind of person who this sort of thing makes me want to drop everything and watch this immediately. BUT I HAVE BEEN DULY WARNED.
Graham Williams loved mythology stuff. It's a shame that he was frequently up against so much production crap, because his vision could have been rather fairy tale-ish and interesting, but he got hit by Inflation and Tom Baker's ego. *whiney noises* That sounds great.
(Warrior's Gate (E-Space tril part 3) is not, but if you speculate that the Tharils are the E-Space's Time Lords, it all gets very meta. Thank you, I absolutely will!
Arc of Infinity (lots of Gallifreyan stuff, but also anti-matter chickens in Amsterdam, which says it all really, oh, and Colin Baker appears) You know those moments when you're like 'what would someone think if they walked by right now with not idea what we're talking about?'
Mawdryn Undead (Guardian Trilogy pt 1 - I think this might be one of the most promising to try - multiple time zones, Time Lord history trouble, and past mythology returning. Although also people with spaghetti on their head...) Yes, it all sounds yummy. Including the spaghetti.
Play the Game of Rassilon if you will, but probably best not to play the Drinking Game of Rassilon as it could be hazardous to your health. Inserts Video of Rassilon) *helpless giggles*
Even so, it might give some more of what you're looking for, and it's hard to be too hard on something where the lead writer died before he wrote the final installment and then the script editor resigned and ran off with the only existing draft of the ending, refusing to let anyone see it, so they had to get Pip & Jane Baker to rush in and do their best as a substitute.) Oh dear, that does sound tragically doomed.
plus fourth-wall breaking crack as far as we can tell Oh, I love fourth-wall breaking crack. So much.
:-) (Please don't try to kill me later even if I probably deserve it!) I shall do my very best. But this is the most exciting list of Classic Who suggestions I have ever seen, so.
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It's so beautiful. Thank you very much indeed. I shall be keeping this open in a tab in my 'currently watching' reference section.
Also I think this list takes in almost all the most hated stories, so it is boldly going where DW recs lists may never have gone before...
I feel so oddly proud about this. Though you did all the work, of course. #watching DW wrong
My comments are very biased and subjective! 10 out of 10 DW fans would argue with me. Although to be fair, they would also argue with the other 9.
*snort*
The War Games (I know it's 10 episodes, and again, more significant than meta-ish (first revelation of who the Doctor is and where he comes from), but it actually has enough plot to sustain itself and is excellent)
I have watched that one! I was talking with
Planet of the Spiders (this is mythology/backstory central, but also comes with bonus epic 70s padding to end all padding, and the worst guest acting ever BUT it is pretty fundamental in who the Doctor is & wraps up some character points/continuity from The Green Death and Invasion of the Dinosaurs)
This is the first good thing I've ever heard about that one. I've only ever seen it referenced as a punchline.
I know [personal profile] elisi has seen it, but if I'm being completist, I have to at least nod to Genesis of the Daleks for origin stories, CIA interference, the first real non-TARDIS time travel and "Do I have the right?" (but also TERRY NATION OH GOD. sorry.)
That is the next thing I'm watching, so we're covered!
Underworld. (Caveat: you don't want to watch Underworld! But there are some interesting ideas mixing the terrible consequences of Gallifreyan history and random Greek myths. If you are feeling completist, watch episode 1. If you watch eps 2-3 with the terrible CSO production nightmare in which everyone was literally trying to get through their lines while not falling over because of the budget crises where there wasn't one due to reasons, DO NOT BLAME ME. Episode 4 is okay.)
Oh man, *giggles* I am exactly the kind of person who this sort of thing makes me want to drop everything and watch this immediately. BUT I HAVE BEEN DULY WARNED.
Graham Williams loved mythology stuff. It's a shame that he was frequently up against so much production crap, because his vision could have been rather fairy tale-ish and interesting, but he got hit by Inflation and Tom Baker's ego.
*whiney noises* That sounds great.
(Warrior's Gate (E-Space tril part 3) is not, but if you speculate that the Tharils are the E-Space's Time Lords, it all gets very meta.
Thank you, I absolutely will!
Arc of Infinity (lots of Gallifreyan stuff, but also anti-matter chickens in Amsterdam, which says it all really, oh, and Colin Baker appears)
You know those moments when you're like 'what would someone think if they walked by right now with not idea what we're talking about?'
Mawdryn Undead (Guardian Trilogy pt 1 - I think this might be one of the most promising to try - multiple time zones, Time Lord history trouble, and past mythology returning. Although also people with spaghetti on their head...)
Yes, it all sounds yummy. Including the spaghetti.
Play the Game of Rassilon if you will, but probably best not to play the Drinking Game of Rassilon as it could be hazardous to your health. Inserts Video of Rassilon)
*helpless giggles*
Even so, it might give some more of what you're looking for, and it's hard to be too hard on something where the lead writer died before he wrote the final installment and then the script editor resigned and ran off with the only existing draft of the ending, refusing to let anyone see it, so they had to get Pip & Jane Baker to rush in and do their best as a substitute.)
Oh dear, that does sound tragically doomed.
plus fourth-wall breaking crack as far as we can tell
Oh, I love fourth-wall breaking crack. So much.
:-) (Please don't try to kill me later even if I probably deserve it!)
I shall do my very best. But this is the most exciting list of Classic Who suggestions I have ever seen, so.